When playing C11 French/Steinitz, 6. dxc5 Bxc5 is chosen. Even in Shredder, it's most played in C11 French/Steinitz. What should White best reply after 6. dxc5 Bxc5??

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1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. e5 Nfd7 5. Nf3 c5 6. dxc5 Bxc5

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The plan for white is to secure the e5 square. Black's freeing maneuver will be to play f6, and the resulting position will have a backwards pawn on e6. Therefore, white's plan will be to place his bishop on f4 and move his knight to e5, perhaps with support along the e-file from a rook or queen.

A possible variation could continue as follows:

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1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. e5 Nfd7 5. Nf3 c5 6. dxc5 Bxc5 7. Bd3 Nc6 8. Bf4 f6 9. exf6 Nxf6 10. O-O O-O 11. Ne5 Bd7 12. Qe2

Keep in mind that this isn't the only way of playing the Steinitz. White more commonly plays 5. f4, bolstering his center pawn on e5 before continuing to develop with Nf3. Also, 6...Nc6 is considered a more accurate move for black, leaving the option of capturing on c5 for a later move and saving a tempo to attack the e5 square.

  • thanks for the answer, if the match follows, who would win as seen [advantages good position], because from my game, white going to lose, and if I check your possible variation seem like my game too.. ^^ – Ahmad Azwar Anas Jul 11 '13 at 3:49
  • In either position it cannot be said who is winning or losing. It's an established variation that has been played in many games. Both sides have their advantages and disadvantages - white occupies the e5 square while black has a central pawn majority. It's up to the player to demonstrate to his or her opponent who has a superior understanding of the position. – Andrew Ng Jul 11 '13 at 12:58
  • sounds good. ok sir.. ^^. – Ahmad Azwar Anas Jul 11 '13 at 14:20

It may not hit the point of the post, but I would like to show you, how I like to play against e6. I play Qh5 after Nfd7, because it is very aggressive and most of the players don't know how to play against it.

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1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. e5 Nfd7 5. Qh5 c5 6. Nf3

cxd4 Nxd4 and now black has to be careful of Nxe6

You will play Be3, sometimes Nb5, often 0-0-0 to protect d4 with your rock.

You can also try to play Ng5 with the opportunity to Qxf7. After g6 you play Qf3.

Nxe5 variety

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1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. e5 Nfd7 5. Qh5 c5 6. Nf3 cxd4 7. Nxd4 g6 8. Qg5 Qxg5 9. Bxg5 Nxe5 10. Bf6

Qb6 variety

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1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. e5 Nfd7 5. Qh5 c5 6. Nf3 cxd4 7. Nxd4 Qb6 8. Ndb5 Nc6

  • I disagree but not downvote. ^^. as I learn, Queen in early in just bad idea, black not to worry if you suggest 5. Qh5 c5 6. nf3 cxd4 7. Nxd4 or 5. Qh5 c5 6. nf3 cxd4 7. Ng5 since black can easily chase the Queen with 7. ... g6 8. ... Nxe5. as @Andrew Ng says, the plan is to secure the e5 square because in this case, black will control the center when seize e5. If you proposed Be3 or Nb5 or O-O-O to secure d4, it will be useless since black can reply with Nc6 easily. Believe me, it hard to hold e5 because White already over aggressive. – Ahmad Azwar Anas Jul 20 '13 at 1:16
  • Again Nc6 you can easily play Bb5. Nxe5 is not really possible, if you play g6, I can retort with Qg5. Qxg5 Bxg5 and you can not play Nxe5, because of Bf6 – Niklas Jul 20 '13 at 3:30
  • oh my God. sorry for incomplete commenting. If you proposed 5. Qh5 c5 6. nf3 cxd4 7. Nxd4, it will replied as 7. ... Qb6, then the possible reply is 8. Nf6 so black can spawn ` 8. ... Nc6. About 7. ... g6, I proposed it when face 5. Qh5 c5 6. nf3 cxd4 7. Ng5. About your Bf6, maybe we have different interpretation because in my calculation, Black take e5` before White bishop came to f6. Thanks for appreciation.. ^^ – Ahmad Azwar Anas Jul 20 '13 at 4:32
  • @AhmadAzwarAnas please see my edited post – Niklas Jul 21 '13 at 18:44
  • upvote for this time. thanks for the EDIT post, let me followed the Qb6 variety since the Nxe5 variety goes wrong for Black (I should take 9. ... a6 at Nxe5 variety and not take the e5 pawn too soon. Believe me, you succeeded to drag my Black Queen out. ^^) but I rather choose 8. ... Nc6 than 8. ... a6 in my Black reply at Qb6 variety. As my view, Nc6 always good move for Black, maybe you want propose the ninth move so I can analyst it later since 9. Be3 isn't longer proportional.. – Ahmad Azwar Anas Jul 22 '13 at 2:17

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