# Determine ELO strength without playing in FIDE tournaments

I don't play club chess or tournaments, how can I determine my ELO strength? I often play on chess.com how well does it compare to the FIDE system? (I am aware that one cannot account for people cheating online)

• Ratings from different systems cannot be directly compared. Aug 22, 2015 at 23:48

This is going to sound tautological, but Elo is inherently a measure of how you do in tournaments. Your question is sort of like asking "I don't run, how can I determine how fast I can run a mile?" We could guess from how generally fit you look, but in reality you just have to go run a mile to find out.

There are correlations between various online ratings and a FIDE rating, but they're just correlations; the context of how you play online is very different from playing live (for one thing, online games are usually much faster).

I can tell you that the first time you play in a live tournament you will likely perform 100-200 points worse than you might expect from such a correlation, just because you're not used to the environment of a face-to-face tournament (moving real pieces, using a clock, writing down your moves, having your opponent right there in front of you, being distracted by other games). Luckily it does not take long to settle in.

The only way to get an accurate estimate of your Elo strength is to actually get an Elo rating.

If you accuracy isn't that important you could take a test like this. There are surely others somewhere. For example in some books (unfortunately I only know a non-English example).

Concerning the chess.com rating: In my experience your Elo should be a bit higher than your chess.com rating, but tournament games and internet blitz can be very different.

• kein Problem, gut wenn man Deutsch kann ;-) Aug 21, 2015 at 12:06
• Hmm, jetzt wo ich mir Deinen Namen noch mal anschaue … ;-) Das Buch ist auf jeden Fall eine sehr gute Einführung in die Taktik und wenn ich mich richtig erinnere gibt es am Ende einen Test der einen irgendwo zwischen 0 und 2840 Elo einordnet. Aug 21, 2015 at 12:15

There was one psychologists site studying such things who had a sample test that would estimate your rating. While you really need to play enough games OTB and get a real FIDE rating you could use that site to estimate your rating.

Alternatively you could play at some online sites and subtract a few hundred points to roughly estimate your FIDE rating.

NOTE that the rating depends a lot on the time control!