Timeline for Is it possible to estimate my ELO without joining an organization or anything?
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| Jun 10, 2022 at 14:01 | comment | added | Grade 'Eh' Bacon | @M1976 What time controls are you using? An estimate of chess ability through puzzles would require some amount of tactical reflection, whereas for example bullet chess, requires fast fingers. | |
| Jun 10, 2022 at 13:41 | comment | added | Mobeus Zoom | @Savage47 Not that it's really relevant, since your understanding of the question is nowhere reflected in the question content or title, but I never said "you don't have one rating at a given point in time". I specifically said "your rating vacillates a lot". Now, as for the distinction between the player's rating and their actual playstrength, I also covered this already in my first posts: "if you're playing large numbers of games" (or, precisely, as frequency tends to infinity) the rating will estimate playstrength (insofar as one number represents it) exactly. | |
| Jun 10, 2022 at 8:52 | answer | added | Inertial Ignorance | timeline score: 2 | |
| Jun 10, 2022 at 3:19 | history | edited | Rewan Demontay |
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| Jun 10, 2022 at 1:22 | comment | added | Savage47 | @mobeus- The question is completely clear to me. I dont understand what is confusing you so much. Your assertion that "you dont have one rating" is completely false. Everyone who has a rating has an actual, objective rating that is true at that point in time. Thats indisputable. It may differ from that player's actual playing strength and that is what the question is asking. | |
| Jun 10, 2022 at 1:12 | history | reopened |
lodebari Akavall Anton Menshov Rewan Demontay Savage47 |
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| Jun 9, 2022 at 17:58 | comment | added | Mobeus Zoom | Let us continue this discussion in chat. | |
| Jun 9, 2022 at 17:58 | comment | added | lodebari | @MobeusZoom In fact, when the user says "Based on how things have been going for me on chess.com, it seems very high." I understand they are implicitly acknowledging that chess.com rating works (better) than Elometer. So they seem to agree with you. | |
| Jun 9, 2022 at 17:57 | comment | added | Mobeus Zoom | If your understanding is correct, then the question is 'Why does Elometer / puzzle ability not accurately reflect my rating' or maybe 'What methods best estimate rating without using results/outcomes'. From the question text it's entirely unclear to understand this way, and explicitly contravened by the title (which strongly suggests that the user thinks the 'true' Elo they would get from "an organization" would be poorly estimated by their Chess.com rating). | |
| Jun 9, 2022 at 17:51 | comment | added | lodebari | @MobeusZoom I applaud your constancy to improve the question. But again, I understand things differently. What I understand is that the Elometer method, when compared to the chess.com rating, does not work. I don't see the user saying anything about being satisfied or dissatisfied with their chess.com rating. And in any case, whether they are satisfied or not, they are free to ask for other methods. | |
| Jun 9, 2022 at 17:42 | comment | added | Mobeus Zoom | @lodebari The user has also tried another method that does work, namely, they have a Chess.com rating. I ask now for the third time: Why aren't they satisfied with this estimate? If the answer is that Chess.com rating is distinct from FIDE Elo, then (also repeating for the third time) this should be the explicit and only content of the question as well as the title. Your rephrasing is no more clear than the actual question. | |
| Jun 9, 2022 at 17:32 | comment | added | lodebari | @MobeusZoom Well, I understand things differently. The way I understand the question is like this: "The user wants to know their Elo. The user has tried a method, that does not work. Thus, is there a method that works better than that?" As I understand it, the whole thing about Elometer is an example to provide context for the question and to show the user has made their research before asking the question. I see no problem of clarity and I think the question should be reopened. | |
| Jun 9, 2022 at 16:34 | comment | added | Mobeus Zoom | If the question is in fact 'How do I estimate my FIDE Elo from my Chess.com rating', this should be the explicit and only content of the question as well as the title. | |
| Jun 9, 2022 at 16:32 | comment | added | Mobeus Zoom | @lodebari How is it clear what the question is asking? The problem was never with wording but with content. Issue is simple: User has a Chess.com rating but claims they are not satisfied with this as a measure of their Elo. Why not? What could possibly be better? (not a puzzle website, certainly, let alone one that tests just a handful of puzzles) | |
| Jun 9, 2022 at 8:47 | history | left closed in review |
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| Jun 9, 2022 at 4:43 | comment | added | Inertial Ignorance | In addition to the link posted by @Hauptideal, you could also check out ethanlebowitz.github.io/RatingConverter/index.html, assuming you play on Lichess. I'm over 2200 FIDE and it's accurate within 30 points for me. | |
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| Jun 8, 2022 at 19:24 | history | left closed in review | Brian Towers♦ | Original close reason(s) were not resolved | |
| Jun 8, 2022 at 18:57 | comment | added | lodebari | @M1976 I have slightly modified the question to try to clarify it and see if it can be reopened. Please check if that is alright with you. | |
| S Jun 8, 2022 at 18:55 | review | Reopen votes | |||
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| S Jun 8, 2022 at 18:55 | history | edited | lodebari | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Jun 8, 2022 at 18:06 | history | closed |
Mobeus Zoom Herb Brian Towers♦ |
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| Jun 8, 2022 at 8:10 | answer | added | Vivaan Daga | timeline score: 6 | |
| Jun 8, 2022 at 3:11 | comment | added | Abhyuday Vaish | Can you share your profile with chess.com? We'll see your rating for your previous months and then let you know if it's fluctuating. | |
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| Jun 7, 2022 at 20:54 | comment | added | Mobeus Zoom | 'I'm just curious' isn't a clear question. Please state precisely what you want to know. If you are curious what your Glicko rating might be, just look at your Chess.com rating. That doesn't satisfy you because it vacillates a lot? Then you don't have one rating. Your rating vacillates a lot. Are you asking the correlation between Chess.com and FIDE Elo ratings? If so, that's totally unclear from the question. The two answers you've had address completely different guesses as to what you actually want to know. | |
| Jun 7, 2022 at 20:24 | comment | added | M1976 | @MobeusZoom I'm mainly just curious. I don't play in real tournaments and such. I just play online. I'm simply curious what my ELO/FIDE/Glicko ratings might be. | |
| Jun 7, 2022 at 18:43 | answer | added | Hauptideal | timeline score: 7 | |
| Jun 7, 2022 at 17:35 | answer | added | Hauke Reddmann | timeline score: 13 | |
| Jun 7, 2022 at 17:19 | comment | added | Mobeus Zoom | If you're playing large numbers of games and your rating is fluctuating wildly, then your playstrength is fluctuating wildly. Elo would show this in the same way that Chess.com rating does. I'm not sure what the real question is here? Do you just want confirmation that Elometer.net is pretty much useless as anything but a curiosity/trivia measure? | |
| Jun 7, 2022 at 16:58 | comment | added | M1976 | @MobeusZoom Thank you for the comments. Is there a way I can determine "in game" strength? I've noticed my chess rating fluctuates wildly on chess.com. I go from anywhere in the low 600's to just over 800. and with the games I play "gaining" rating seems harder, because it's just a few points at a time, based on the relative strength of the opponent. I'm just curious, mostly. | |
| Jun 7, 2022 at 16:43 | comment | added | Mobeus Zoom | Why would you believe any test of your puzzle ability could possibly be as good a measure as your online rating (on Chess.com, Lichess, etc.)? Although they are not the same system and not on the same scale (and also not at classical controls) (and online rather than OTB), these differences pale in comparison to the difference between puzzle ability and in-game playstrength. | |
| Jun 7, 2022 at 15:53 | history | edited | M1976 | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Jun 7, 2022 at 14:58 | history | asked | M1976 | CC BY-SA 4.0 |