Questions tagged [pawn-promotion]

Questions related to techniques for promoting pawns, or the promotion itself.

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Is one move considered as objectively better than another if they both lead to the same result?

Here is an example [FEN "8/3k2PB/q7/8/4K3/8/8/8 w - - 0 1"] One might intuitively say g8=Q is a much better move than g8=R. However, since they both lead to a draw, should we not conclude ...
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Can't a pawn capture onto the last rank to promote?

I do not play chess much. Recently a friend reached out to play some online games. We ran into an odd situation that I cannot find a rule on. His White pawn was at g2 and my Rook was still at h1. He ...
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Does a loophole still exist in the defintion of castling?

Castling on the e-file with a promoted rook, an idea immortalized by Tim Krabbe and Max Pam, is no longer legal since FIDE amended the wording to state that castling is an actionn on the first/eigth ...
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Maximum number of quiet moves in a position

The question of how many captures a position can have has been asked in the past: Maximum number of captures in a position Without captures, and without promotion, which I define as “quiet” moves, ...
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Human analysis for a KRBNNPP against KRRN ending?

This line of play leads to this position: [White "White"] [Black "Black to move"] [FEN "8/rp4p1/1N1nkb2/3n4/6R1/1R6/8/2K5 b - - 1 38"] StockFish 10+ assures me that Black has a big advantage, but I ...
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Looking for practical rulesets for when king promotion is allowed

One consistent feature of chess over the centuries if that there has only ever been one king for each side, and the rules of promotion were tightened to prevent promotion to a second king. However, ...
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What is the origin, or a early appearance, of this famous chess tale?

There is a story I have found across the Internet of an endgame between two players, usually named as Capablanca versus an extraterrestrial of some sort. According to the Spanish chess Wikipedia, the ...
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Understanding Carlsen's resignation in the rook and pawn endgame vs MVL

Why did Carlsen resign in the position shown below? (blitz game played in the London Chess Classic GCT Finals) Can't white help the pawn queen after Ke3 and Kd3 then Kd4? I must be missing something. ...
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Why does Lichess mark this move as “?!”?

I was looking at this game on Lichess, where it says "Checkmate is now unavoidable. Best move was Kc4." As far as I can tell, checkmate was already unavoidable, including after Kc4. Namely, Black can ...
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FIDE rules when opponent accidentally promotes to your Queen

This happened to someone else recently in a time scramble during an OTB game. His opponent promoted a pawn and placed a Queen of the wrong color on the board. He was corrected by the player and the ...
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Games with two knight promotions in them

Games with two knight promotions are extremely rare, but a few have existed. In an article of his, Tim Krabbe stated that, about the game Zurakhov - Koblentz, "This is one in only 5 games with two ...
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What is the maximum number of promoted pawns ever achieved in a competitive game?

In theory, a player could advance all eight of their pawns to the end of the board, promoting them all. In my own experience, games with more than two promotions on one side have been vanishingly rare,...
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Knight promotion percentages

Knight promotion is the second most common promotion. Most of the time it is to give an otherwise ungivable check. But it doesn’t always come with check. Statiscally speaking, what percentage of ...
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List of numerous possible reasons to promote to a knight

While this asks for a reason/any reason in general, I wish to make a list of numerous posssible unique reasons. I already have an exhaustive list of my own. Are there any more possible reasons out ...
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If a pawn promotes to a checking piece while also revealing a check, it is a double check?

I'm writing a chess engine just for fun, and during the validation of movement generation, I found some positions in Perft Results that differ from what my engine is producing. As an example, take ...
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If a pawn is promoted to queen beside the king is the king instantly in check?

If a pawn is promoted to queen adjacent to the enemy king, is the king instantly in check?
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Has promotion with double check ever happened in a professional game?

Promotion is common in many games, and is sometimes comes with check. But something I have never seen in a game is a promotion that comes with double check like this example illustrates. [FEN "8/...
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Touching a captured queen — must I promote to it?

Playing a friendly game against my son (but with Touch-and-Move in force), I was going to promote a pawn to a queen, so I fished out my queen from among the captured pieces, and placed it on the ...
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Can a pawn that performed an en passant capture promote at all?

So let's say I capture en passant with a pawn. Using the same pawn, I get to the 8th rank. Can I promote that pawn into anything else? I've heard of this restriction in various ways. Some say it can ...
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What happens if I push a pawn to the 8th rank and press the clock before promoting? [duplicate]

What happens if I push a pawn to the 8th rank and press the clock before converting it to another piece? Does it make a difference if it's Blitz or not?
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Is it unsportsmanlike to underpromote to improve my chances?

Is it unsportsmanlike to underpromote a pawn to improve my chances? Sometimes I reach a won endgame where underpromoting my pawn will result in a slower but easier final checkmate. Old example, ...
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How likely is it that a non-orthodox promotion is optimal?

Underpromotion is an interesting aspect of chess, but there are other possibilities that aren't allowed under modern rules. One is the so called "dummy pawn" as this question discusses: When (if ever)...
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When (if ever) was it a rule that pawn promotion was optional?

I'm reading a very old chess book ("The Chess Pocket Manual" by G.H.D. Gossip, copyright 1894), and I find this passage in it's section on "The Laws of Chess": When a Pawn has reached the eighth ...
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Why underpromote in this KNNP-KR endgame?

In the position below, I'm promoting my pawn. The app says promoting to a Queen is incorrect, but a Rook is correct? In this setup it doesn't make sense. [FEN "8/1P6/3N4/8/8/3k4/r7/4KN2 w - - 0 1"] ...
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Can a pawn move to the last row diagonally without a capture?

Playing the "Champion" J2ME chess, I noticed that the bot (black) made the move "Pg2-h1=Q." Is this a bug or just a rarely known rule like en passant and castling?
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Illegal promotion in FIDE blitz game? [duplicate]

In a FIDE rated blitz (3+2) tournament (following the official FIDE rules), the following position occurred: [FEN "8/1k5P/q7/8/8/8/6K1/6Q1 w - - 0 1"] White played 1.h8Q. But since both queens were ...
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What is the minimum number of pieces needed in a chess set to account for all possible promoted pieces?

How many pieces would be needed in a chess set where all possibilities for promoted pieces are included if pawns are no longer used after they promote?
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Is castling possible with a pawn promoted to a rook?

I was thinking about some rules and I came up with a really nice question. Is it possible to castle with a pawn promoted to a rook? If the rules are followed-neither the king or the new rook has ...
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A word for the resulting piece of a promotion?

I'm looking for a word that represents the piece after the promotion. In a chemical reaction there are the reactants and the products. Is there an equivalent word for product in promotion? (In case I ...
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Pawn promotion strategy

Why is it so important to KEEP a pawn from promoting if you have a piece situated so that when the pawn promotes your next move can be to capture it? Is this a matter of tempo? Frankly, once the pawn ...
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Is this 2B vs. N endgame won for the bishops?

Tim Krabbe gives this position on his list of serious promotions to rook and bishop: [FEN "8/8/5b2/8/K7/4N3/kp6/8 w - - 0 1"] [White "Boniface"] [Black "Pugh"] [Site "Bristol"] [Date "1995"] 1. Nd1 ...
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Can there be two bishops on white tiles? If not, can my queen be capture and then promoted so I can win the game?

. Can there be two bishops on White squares? If not, can my queen be captured and then be promoted so I can win the game? I reallly. don't know what to do because I think you cannot that have two ...
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How do you calculate pawn endgames, like if you have X number of pawns facing X numbers of opposite color?

I'll use a random example here with white to move, but I'm really asking about the general principles. 8/7p/6p1/pp3p2/3k1P2/PP6/1P1K1PPP/8 w - - 0 1 I'm a chess amateur and endgames drive me crazy....
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Promoting to Rook or Bishop [duplicate]

Is there any chess position where the most correct move would be promoting a pawn on the 7th or 2nd rank to a Rook or Bishop since the queen can perform both their moves.
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Promotion transition

What is the point at which promotion occurs? Does the pawn as it enters the 8th rank become a promoted piece as it enters or does it have to occupy as a pawn then be promoted? If promotion occurs as ...
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Pawn-Promotions [duplicate]

The Pawn Promotion, I read that: "A pawn may be promoted to any piece. (NOTE: A common misconception is that pawns may only be exchanged for a piece that has been captured. That is NOT true.)" So, ...
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Promoting a pawn

When a pawn reaches the opposing side it can be promoted. Given that the most advantageous choice of promotion is to a Queen I have 3 questions. Does this mean that the newly promoted piece (e.g. ...
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Do you get an extra turn when you promote your pawn?

If you promote a pawn do you get a second move to move it out of danger? Or do you still only get the promotion as your move and it becomes the opponents move?
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Pawn promotion to queen of the other color

A Black pawn reached the end of board and Black himself picked it up and placed a White queen on the board. He removed his hand from the piece. I am not concerned with 'the spirit of the game' but ...
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Why doesn't Promotion restrict choices to Queen and Knight only?

Queen, in a sense, is equivalent to Bishop and Rook. What is the logic behind "putting Rook and Bishop" in the promotion move's options? Why doesn't it (Promotion move) provide the choice between ...
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Is there any position where not promoting(illegally) would be the best move?

Is there any position, where moving a pawn to last rank but not promoting it to any piece would be the best move? By the way, I know this is an illegal move. Assume it is legal. Edit: Now we have a ...
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Question on promoting pawns to queens

If you have two queens (original and one promoted) on board and the original queen is captured....can you promote your next pawn at the eight rank to queen again?
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Is pawn promotion obligatory?

According to Wikipedia, when a pawn advances to the eighth rank, the pawn is promoted as a part of the move. However, this doesn't make it clear whether I am obliged to promote the pawn if it gets to ...
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What is the most queens that have been on the board in a grandmaster game?

There are quite a few grandmaster games with 3 queens or 4 queens, but what is the highest number of queens on the board in a game between two GMs? I'd be interested in both the most on the board ...
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Why is there an option for the pawn to be promoted in any chess piece? [duplicate]

A pawn can be promoted to a queen, a knight, a rook or a bishop. My question is why would someone want their pawn to be promoted to anything other than a queen? I can understand the knight promotion ...
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Famous pawn promotion matches

Except for a famous match between Tigran Petrosian and Bobby fischer, I don't know of any famous chess match between top notch players which had some climactic pawn promotions . Could anyone here ...
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Can I promote to a queen twice?

I am confused about pawn promotion. If I promote two different pawns, can I promote them both to a queen?
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Why does Fritz prefer underpromotion in this position?

Why does Fritz prefer underpromotion in this position? How can underpromotion to bishop evaluate so much higher than normal queen promotion? Can this be a bug in the Fritz 14 chess engine?
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Situations of underpromoting the pawn

I recently came across a wonderful article on Chess.com about under promotion of pawns. One of the situations is here: [FEN "8/8/1KP5/3r4/8/8/8/k7 w - - 0 1"] [Date "1895.??.??"] [White "Saavedra, ...
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How common/important is promotion to knight?

Is a chess program without the ability to promote to knight unacceptably incomplete? I have a chess program that implements most basic chess rules, such as en passant and castling. However, promotion ...