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What makes a draw "prearranged"?

A prearranged draw, if proven (how?), will earn the players a -:-. Now consider this situation: Today, big kids tournament by our club/school. Two players from the same school are paired, 1.e4 e5 Draw....
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Can a superGM always draw another as white?

Review of related literature: Previously this was asked for GMs regardless of colour: 1.1 - Why do many people think that top grand masters can always reach a draw? 1.2 - Can a grandmaster always ...
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What happens if drawn matches are decided by black wins (if any)?

In some round robins or swiss, there are score tiebreakers based on black wins, like the 2022 Accentus Chess960 tournament and the 2023 USCC. Never mind those. My question is for knockouts. Obviously ...
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Roulette as tiebreak in 1983 candidates

From What are some cases where a drawn match went to the player w/ more black wins? : In the 1980 – 1981 candidates, where Lajos Portisch, as black, beat Boris Spassky in the 1st game of their ...
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What are some cases where a drawn match went to the player w/ more black wins?

In some round robins or swiss, there are score tiebreakers based on black wins, like the 2022 Accentus Chess960 tournament. Never mind those. My question is for knockouts. Obviously this doesn't work ...
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The rule of draw if the same position repeats itself 3 times [duplicate]

Sometimes I hear that after losing the right for castling all position are different from the ones that before losing it. I don't think so. Like you can move the rook back and forth and losing the ...
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Classical Time Control Armageddon? [duplicate]

The fate of chess has been discussed for a long time and in recent years it has become more and more common. Examples of this include the 2018 World Chess Championship(12 draws) and the 2016 World ...
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Would a classic full time armageddon tiebreaker be balanced?

I think that classic chess and rapid chess are two quite different kinds of sport. The classic chess title was undecided this year 2018. Why not use the armageddon rule, that black wins if tied in ...
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How often can the initial position be repeated under FIDE tournament rules?

Recently a game was played where two GMs swapped kingside and queenside knights and then agreed a draw (and got their just dessert): How often can the starting position be repeated in a game without ...
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Can a draw be claimed if proven to be inevitable but no time remaining to actually pull it off?

There is an interesting chess problem which made me think. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzOKknAi684 The player at a disadvantage is aiming for a draw. He can achieve this because there is a set of ...
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Why does Stockfish only gives -28 to a game with only a W pawn and a B rook remaining, while it should be resolved in perfect play?

In this position (W resigned) with only a pawn and a rook remaining Stockfish should have resolved the game and say "Mate in xx" (with perfect play). However Stockfish is said to have ...
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Maximum number of pieces on board in dead position

It is possible in a chess game to have a dead position in which both players have all eight pawns, one bishop, and a king--20 pieces total. If the two players' pawns are interlocked in "zig-zag" ...
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What is the result if a player has insufficient material and the opponent plays two illegal moves?

Suppose player X has only a king. Their opponent has played two illegal moves during the game. Is it a draw or does X win?
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What's the easiest way to hold this 4 vs 3 pawns on same side rook endgame?

After having been under tremendous pressure due to a mistake in the middle game and with only 30s on the clock, I was very relieved to find a way to liquidate into this endgame, which I knew was a ...
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Does 'dead position' consider the 75 moves rule?

In 5.2.2 of the FIDE laws it says: The game is drawn when a position has arisen in which neither player can checkmate the opponent’s king with any series of legal moves. The game is said to end in a ‘...
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Can the game end in multiple ways at the same time?

We know that a game can't end in checkmate and draw by 50 move rule. The checkmate will take precedence. But just for fun let's ask: is it possible for a game to end in both draw by repetition & ...
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How can I draw this KPPP-KR endgame?

See Three (3) Pawns and a King vs King and Rook. I consider it one of the most amazing chess endgame puzzles. [Title "White to play and draw"] [fen "8/2k5/2r5/8/4PPP1/5K2/8/8 w - - 0 1&...
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How would this position be scored if you ran out of time here?

Here is the position (black has just played Qf8, the only legal move after White's Re8+): [FEN "2nKRq1k/6pp/8/3n4/6b1/8/8/8 w - - 0 1"] In this position white has a forced mate in one, in ...
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Timeout vs Insufficient Material

This is not a new topic but it did happen in my game at chess.com. I was playing white and played the only legal move h7 and was checkmated on the next move. My question is: What will happen if I just ...
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Can Rook pawn still get win when opponent clock run out?

White has Rook pawn and King vs Black king just jumping from corner and back. But the game played on clock and black king clock run out. White avoided threefold and stalemate and moved his king to ...
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Why is a win better than 2 draws in the tiebreaks

When I play chess tournaments and I have 5/2/2 in the tiebreaks I always lose to players with 6/3/0. So why is a win better than 2 draws? Which is the logic behind it?
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Is it ethical to take a draw in a winning position, if a draw is good enough?

Follow-up question to Is it ethical to take a zero-moves draw in the last round of a tournament if one is already assured of first place? I'm concentrating on this particular scenario from that ...
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How is this a draw?

I was playing a game on chess.com. It is this game: https://www.chess.com/live/game/84265198943 It ended in a draw right as I was about to flag my opponent. I can not figure out why.
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How is this a “draw by three-fold repetition”?

How is this a draw by three-fold repetition? Following my last move, the app notified me of a draw by three-fold repetition. [FEN "rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/RNBQKBNR w KQkq - 0 1"] ...
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Threefold repetition in view of castling rights

In view of castling rights, an aspiring rules lawyer could ask: when does threefold repetition support a draw claim? Technical example: [fen ""] [title "Illustration of castling rights&...
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Can Loss by Checkmate be Avoided by Invoking the 50-Move Rule Immediately After the 100th Half-Move?

The FIDE Laws of Chess state the 50-move rule as follows: 9.3 The game is drawn, upon a correct claim by a player having the move, if: 9.3.1 he/she indicates his/her move, which cannot be ...
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Running out of time before playing a forced move that would draw the game

What happens if a player runs out of time before playing a forced move that would end in a draw? I suspect it is a loss, but it would be fair to be a draw. 7K/6P1/8/8/8/8/1k4p1/8 b - - 0 1 1... g1=Q ...
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How is this game a draw? [duplicate]

I was watching some YouTube videos, and I stumbled upon this game: [Event "?"] [Site "?"] [Date "????.??.??"] [Round "?"] [White "?"] [Black "?&...
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Endgame - pawnless Queen + Rook vs Queen

Today, when I was playing end game I had a queen, a rook and a king (no pawns). My opponent had just a queen. It was his turn (the board was pretty blank) and he started giving continuous checks. I ...
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Which theoretically drawn endings have high difference in material count?

Ending of King+Queen vs. King+Pawn is usually draw when pawn is on seventh rank of rook or bishop file, given that defending king is in front of it and attacking king is not close enough to force ...
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Is Stockfish reliable as far as draw conclusions is concerned?

I just stumbled across this endgame : https://www.365chess.com/game.php?back=1&gid=134885&m=24 Basically, Black has only a Queen, White has Queen and Rook. Black resigns. But here comes the ...
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Why didn't Laurent Fressinet-Alexandra Kosteniuk (2007) end in a draw?

Game is available here. The last 116 moves of that game was R+B vs. R, which is a theoretical draw that is hard for a human to defend. Fressinet eventually faltered and resigned when he was about to ...
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What's the rationale behind chess engines conditionally allowing threefold repetitions when assigning a draw score?

When a chess engine sees a position p repeated once (i.e. position p occurred twice) it immediately assigns the second occurrence of position p a draw score. This makes sense because position p doesn'...
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With only a king left, how many moves remaining until a draw?

I am a beginner in chess. If I have only a king left, how many moves does my opponent have to mate me?
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Candidates 2013: could Ivanchuk have legally/ethically offered a draw (and thus make Kramnik champion)?

In the last round of the Candidates of the 2013 World Championship, there were two players left in contention. Kramnik (black vs. Ivanchuk) needed to outperform Carlsen (white vs. Svidler). In the ...
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Why does stockfish give "-28.8" as the evaluation number for this position?

[FEN "5K2/8/5k2/5b2/6b1/5b1b/4b1b1/7b w - - 0 1"] This game is an immediate draw by insufficient material (Doesn't Stockfish know this?). I am wondering what the reason behind the score &...
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Why doesn't Stockfish announce when it solved a position as a book draw similar to how it announces a forced mate?

I notice that when Stockfish has solved a position to mate it announces that checkmate is unavoidable in some number of moves so it's impossible to mistaken a position Stockfish has solved as a win ...
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Is contempt factor used as a way to make engine games more interesting?

Chess is believed to be a theoretical draw. So top chess engines, which are not too far off from theoretical optimum, tend to reach drawn positions, which are not too exciting. My understanding is ...
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Is it possible to checkmate with knight and king against king?

I would like to clarify two things: Is it possible to checkmate with only a knight and a king against a lone king? What will happen when one side has a king and knight and the other has just a king, ...
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A specific draw etiquette

In one of my last games, I offered a draw. Now for what the rules don't say... He had quite to chew on the offer. Half an hour he was sitting and pondered whether he could risk to play to win. I, on ...
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Is this an incorrect draw by chess.com?

Is this an incorrect draw by chess.com? I just played a game on chess.com with the final position as below (I am black): [FEN "8/8/2b5/7P/8/2k1N3/5PP1/6K1 w - - 0 59"] My opponent's time ...
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Is there a position where the weaker side can force stalemating the stronger side?

Usually, the (materially) stronger side stalemates the materially weaker side. Is there a position where the weaker side can forcibly stalemate the stronger side? The only position I know where this ...
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What is "mating potential" in the FIDE Arbiter's Manual meant to mean?

While researching an answer for another SE.chess question (Has a position being a draw under FIDE 5.2.b before a forced recapture ever come up in a tournament?), I stumbled across the following issue. ...
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Can White win this middle game?

I played a game that ended with a draw and this is the end position: [FEN ""] [startply "119"] 1. e4 f6 2. d4 d6 3. c4 b6 4. Nc3 Bb7 5. f4 Nd7 6. Nf3 c5 7. d5 Qc7 8. Bd3 a6 9. a3 ...
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What is the most number of repetitions in a GM game?

In July 2014 FIDE introduced new rules regarding draws. The arbiter was required to step in and declare the game drawn in cases where the players repeated the position 5 times: 9.6 If one or both of ...
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What are the different rules for claiming a draw?

According to the current FIDE rules of chess: The game is drawn upon a correct claim by the player having the move, when the same position, for at least the third time (not necessarily by a ...
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Why is it a draw after check from pawn promotion?

I've been playing against Stockfish, and sometimes I promote a pawn to a piece that immediately puts the opposing king (the only piece on the board) into check, but the computer says at that point ...
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Checkmate with King and Knight vs King and Knight

I just have a quick question. I was playing on chess.com and got into the following position: [FEN "8/4n/6k1/8/K2/3N1/8/8 b - - 0 1"] Now, I assumed that once we traded off the last pawns, the game ...
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Is there a record for threefold repetition for when the claimed positions are the farthest apart, in terms of moves?

That’s one long question, so let’s break it down. Threefold repetition, as many know, is when a draw occurs, after the same position, with all piece types on the same square, all possible moves and ...
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Is chess with pawn odds still a draw?

Virtually everyone believes chess from the starting position is a draw, and the result is borne out at top level - at the ICCF correspondence chess world chess championships, almost every game is ...

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