Questions tagged [draw]

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Have any tournaments considered a draw to be a loss for both sides?

In most tournaments, a win is 1 point and a draw is 0.5 points for both sides. I'm aware of "armagadden matches" where a draw is 0 points for white, and 1 point for black. Have there been ...
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Why do GMs repeat moves instead of offering a draw?

Watching recaps of the 2021 Candidates Tournaments, so many games end in consecutive repeating moves. I have a general impression that lots of top level games are drawn by repeating moves. Why do the ...
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Insufficient material draw on lichess.org

[FEN "8/8/1k5K/8/1p1N4/8/p7/8 w - - 0 1"] I had KPP material and my opponent had KN. My time ran out and I lost the game. Shouldn't this have been a draw?
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Winning percentage in chess 960 in 2021

How does the winning percentage (white win/draw/black win) in chess 960 (Fischer random) compare to that of regular chess? The above was asked here. I would like to re-ask this question with the ...
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Is this a draw despite the Stockfish evaluation of −5?

I reached this position as Black: [Title "Black to move"] [FEN "8/8/8/3q4/6kp/7R/6P1/6K1 b - - 3 46"] And I felt that I cannot make any progress and so it feels like a draw. ...
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Time out question in a drawish endgame

With some extremely rare exceptions, KNN vs KR endgame should be a draw. However, I am wondering what if this endgame happens in a game with no increments. I think the following will happen at chess....
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A question about draw detection in chess engines

Let us look at this position. [FEN "4k3/8/8/p1p1p1p1/P1P1P1P1/8/8/4K3 w - - 0 1"] This is obviously a draw. Analyzing this with the Stockfish engine says that it is a balanced position. ...
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Is there a good strategy to achieve a draw?

Background Sometimes I face players who are much stronger than me and my first thought is, 'I just need a draw in this match' so I play "carefully" My Current Strategies Offer a draw It ...
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Source on common ways to make draws

I was recently surprised by the following drawing idea, black to move: 6k1/pR3pbp/6p1/1Q6/8/5nP1/PP1r3P/5K2 b - - 0 1 In this position black can play Nxh2+ and, no matter white's king move, move the ...
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Contempt factor [closed]

I have a question concerning the contempt factor of a chess engine, that i am writing, and thought that this forum would be the best one to ask it in. The contempt factor is a way of deincentivizing ...
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What counts has “having enough material to mate”?

I'm aware that if one's flag falls then the game is declared a win for the opposing side if something like "they have enough material to mate" or "it is possible to mate". I'm ...
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Why is there no rule allowing a player to claim a draw in lonely king endgames?

I was wondering, why is there no way for a player, who has sufficient mating material, to claim a draw against a lonely king? According to Wikipedia: The rules allow for several types of draws: ...
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Empirical question: Is a drawish opening line really a concern for an ambitious player?

While similar questions have been asked before and many comments were given, I couldn't find a thread dealing with my particular experiences. So: Whenever I discuss openings with professional and even ...
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Tablebases say this position is drawn, but Stockfish disagrees-What does that mean?

Today I found myself in the below position as black (me to play). My gut told me it should be a draw, but as my opponent and I are both fairly weak there was a significant chance one of us would ...
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King + Queen vs. King + Queen - is this a draw?

Black and white both have one queen and the king. Is this game a draw?
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What is the meaning of “dead draw”?

I heard the term "dead draw" a lot, but I don't know its meaning and when a position is "dead draw".
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Lichess endgame evaluation

Why is it that Lichess, and other engines for that matter, give a non-zero evaluation score on an endgame position that should be either a draw or a win for one of the sides (given perfect play)? For ...
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Knight + King vs Knight + King - Loss on time

I am quite new to chess and I wonder what someone can do about the following situation: Me (white): Knight + King, 1 minute left Opponent (black): Knight + King, 3 minutes left By the following rule:...
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Does a KQQ vs KQ endgame position with perpetual check exist?

In such an endgame situation (no specific position), where White isn't pinning the Black queen on the first move, is it possible for Black to get a perpetual check if they move first?
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Is this queen endgame a win or a draw for White?

[FEN "6k1/8/4qp1p/7P/6P1/5P2/6K1/Q7 w - - 0 1"] I am unable to analyze this queen endgame in which it is White's turn. Is it a win or a draw for White?
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When are games against engines drawn?

When two engines play against each other in a game of chess, when is it appropriate to declare a draw when clearly no progress is possible? For example: 8/6k1/8/R3K2p/2r3p1/6P1/7P/8 w - - 0 2 This ...
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What is the theoretical maximal total of material for the insufficient material draw? [duplicate]

The insufficient mating material rule says that the game is immediately declared a draw if there is no way to end the game in checkmate. This usually happens in KB vs K or KN vs K endgames. However, ...
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Resignation when a draw is offered

In a recent online game, I offered a draw when the endgame is clearly drawing. To my surprise, instead of replying to my draw offer, my opponent resigned. I have no idea why they did so and my best ...
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Is this endgame drawn after the rook sacrifice?

2R5/8/8/8/4Pp1P/3k1K2/2p2P2/1r6 w - - 0 46 In this position, the engine recommends 1. Rxc2 and evaluates the position as drawn. Is there a general rule in such positions or precise calculation is ...
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Is this the position from TCEC Season 18, Game 80 a win or a draw?

This position from move 42 of TCEC Season 18 Game 80, with Black to move. Is it a win or a draw? [FEN "8/1k5p/1P3pp1/K1P2b2/5P1P/8/8/2B5 b - - 0 1"]
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Is shuffling aimlessly for hundreds of moves permissible?

As I write this, game 73 of the TCEC Season 18 superfinal has just ended. What was most "interesting" about this game is the sheer amount of shuffling both sides did: starting from around ...
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Is it bad etiquette to try to make an opponent lose on time when a position is clearly drawn?

The other day I was playing a rapid game (30 minutes each side) online. I got into time trouble but I managed to convert the position into a drawn endgame. (Not just a theoretical draw—a clear draw ...
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If the only move is to move your king into check is the game a draw? [duplicate]

If the only move is to move your king into check is the game a draw? does this mean the game is a draw?
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Can anyone please explain why this position isn't a draw?

I was watching this game on lichess. Both of the players have the same resource i.e., the king and only a bishop. The bishops on the board are of the opposite color. But the game was continued and one ...
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Please help solve this endgame problem posed by a friend

[FEN "5K2/k7/4P1p1/8/8/8/4b3/8 w - - 0 1"] A friend of mine is challenging me to find a solution. It’s White to play and DRAW.
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About the Alireza Firouzja vs Magnus Carlsen KN-KN endgame

A game between Alireza Firouzj and Magnus Carlsen in chess24’s [Magnus Carlsen invitational 2020](https://chess24.com/en/embed tournament/magnus-carlsen-invitational-2020) ended in a draw due to "...
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Statistics on rejected draw offers

I am wondering if there are any statistics on rejected draw offers (say of GM games). Namely, what are the following percentages of the following results when a draw offer is declined: The side that ...
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Is the game done if your only movement is getting out of check?

If I play as White and use my queen to check Black on every move, and Black can only move their king to get out of the check, can I win the game? White could move something else, but they decide to ...
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In Bughouse can you claim a draw if the position on the board repeated three times but the pieces available to place were different?

In Bughouse chess can you make a triple occurrence draw claim if the position on the board has been repeated three times but the pieces available to the players to place were different each time?
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Game ended with a handshake

In a amateur game, black offered a handshake and white shook hands with him and neither spoke any word and the game ended. Later they had a dispute whether the game is a draw or a win for white. Black ...
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Why is it called a draw?

There's no information as to why it's called a draw. Some of my students start to take out a pencil and paper and literally draw in the middle of the game. Why is it called a draw?
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How to indicate that “I need more time to consider your draw offer” in a formal game?

When my opponent makes a draw offer, I will consider whether to accept this draw offer or not and this consideration could take very long, say 20 minutes or more. What is a good etiquette now to ...
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What is the longest wait before a draw offer is accepted?

If I understand correctly, once player A makes a draw offer, the opponent player B retains the right to accept the draw offer as long as player B does not rejected it verbally, or touch a piece with ...
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Why is offering draw not recorded but giving a check recorded?

In recording a game, one typically does not record offering draws (if yes, how and is it required?) while one does indicate that a particular move gives a check by using + (or ++ for double checks). ...
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Your time is up on an online correspondence game but your oponnent has only his king; is it a draw?

If your time is up on a timed game, but your opponent has only a king, the game is drawn. Does this rule apply to online correspondence games?
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draw game on lichess after 2 repetitions? [duplicate]

I was playing this game with white https://lichess.org/INsUhHEO I was losing, so I was happy to see the 3-position draw button appearing, which I clicked. But after, reviewing the game, I couldn't ...
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Chess.com insufficient material draw

I played a game at chess.com and the endgame was KNN vs KP. When the pawn was captured, the server automatically give a draw due to "insufficient material". I am confused about chess.com's ...
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How to tell that this is a draw

In an endgame I played as Black, after the rooks were exchanged, the below position was reached. A funky stalemate quickly ensued. [FEN "8/5ppk/5p1p/8/3K1P2/6P1/7P/8 b - - 0 1"] [startflipped ""] 1.....
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Has the 75 move draw rule ever been invoked in a FIDE rated standard game involving a GM?

In the latest FIDE Laws of Chess the arbiter is supposed to step in and declare the game drawn if 75 moves are played by both sides with no captures and no pawn moves. It would be understandable if ...
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Computers and draws

Engines really push for a win in a dead-draw middlegame position, unlike humans who may agree on a draw. Why is that happening?
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Lockheed draw rules

I recently played Lichess game that left me confused. My opponent had 1 second left on the clock when the game was suddenly drawn. There was no repitition nor was the 50-move rule invoked. Did the ...
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Why did I lose on time with 3 pawns vs Knight. Shouldn't it be a draw?

I've just lost an online game on time (lichess.com). I had 3 pawns and my opponent had just a knight. I don't understand why it's not a draw.
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Draw rates in classical chess between elite players?

I'm looking for detailed statistics exhibiting draw rate for elite players. I did find this and this publications, however, they only contain aggregated data for 2600+ players, and arrive at a figure ...
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Longest series of mutual “!” moves

Normally I'd pester the/a computer chess forum, but I couldn't register yet... On the Matplus chess forum, the following construction task came up. Both White and Black are on the brink of ...
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Is my low blitz game drawing rate at www.chess.com an indicator that I am weak in chess?

I have played 630 blitz game at chess.com and only 10.3% of my games are draw; see the diagram. When I play black, my drawing rate is slightly higher than my drawing rate playing white. This is ...