Questions tagged [draw]
Questions relating to drawing in chess
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How to tell that this is a draw
In an endgame I played as Black, after the rooks were exchanged, the below position was reached. A funky stalemate quickly ensued.
[FEN "8/5ppk/5p1p/8/3K1P2/6P1/7P/8 b - - 0 1"]
[startflipped ""]
1.....
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Has the 75 move draw rule ever been invoked in a FIDE rated standard game involving a GM?
In the latest FIDE Laws of Chess the arbiter is supposed to step in and declare the game drawn if 75 moves are played by both sides with no captures and no pawn moves.
It would be understandable if ...
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Computers and draws
Engines really push for a win in a dead-draw middlegame position, unlike humans who may agree on a draw. Why is that happening?
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Lockheed draw rules
I recently played Lichess
game that left me confused.
My opponent had 1 second left on the clock when the game was suddenly drawn. There was no repitition nor was the 50-move rule invoked. Did the ...
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Why did I lose on time with 3 pawns vs Knight. Shouldn't it be a draw?
I've just lost an online game on time (lichess.com).
I had 3 pawns and my opponent had just a knight.
I don't understand why it's not a draw.
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Draw rates in classical chess between elite players?
I'm looking for detailed statistics exhibiting draw rate for elite players. I did find this and this publications, however, they only contain aggregated data for 2600+ players, and arrive at a figure ...
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Is my low blitz game drawing rate at www.chess.com an indicator that I am weak in chess?
I have played 630 blitz game at chess.com and only 10.3% of my games are draw; see the diagram.
When I play black, my drawing rate is slightly higher than my drawing rate playing white. This is ...
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Is there a record for threefold repetition for when the claimed positions are the farthest apart, in terms of moves?
That’s one long question, so let’s break it down. Threefold repetition, as many know, is when a draw occurs, after the same position, with all piece types on the same square, all possible moves and ...
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Threefold repetition in view of castling rights
In view of castling rights, an aspiring rules lawyer could ask: when does threefold repetition support a draw claim? Technical example:
[fen ""]
[title "Illustration of castling rights"]
[startply "...
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What is the draw frequency for 3 consecutive games (same players; amateur level)?
In Mr. Robot (TV series) episode "eps2.2_init_1.asec", Elliot and Mr. Robot drew 3 consecutive chess games. They remark it's impossible.
The odds of that are Impossible.
As far as TV shows go, Mr. ...
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Not in stalemate, but why is this a draw?
I was practicing with stockfish level 8, having two rooks in the endgame whereas stockfish has only one. At the 78th move, it was declared as a draw. But, it was not a stalemate. Can anyone please ...
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Examples of forced stalemate
The usual case one often sees specially in blitz play is when one side (usually the winning) mis-plays and then stalemate occurs with the losing side dodging a loss. But are there positions where ...
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What is the theoretical maximal material difference of a dead draw which is not a stalemate?
I have noticed the following example, which should be a dead draw:
I am wondering what is the theoretical material difference of a dead draw which is not a stalemate? (I am not asking about agreed ...
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Most drawish and least drawish opening?
Based on statistics (drawing percentage), which opening is the most drawish and which one is the least drawish?
I am aware of questions such as this one, but my question is different.
Criteria:
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Draw offer without executing move
Scenario: It's Player A's move, and without executing a move he offers a draw. Player B replies "Please make a move". Player A then makes a move, where upon player B says: "Ok, I accept". Is it now ...
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What opening is recommended if white is only playing for a draw?
If in a tournament game, white is only aiming for a draw, what openings and strategies will be recommended for him? I guess that the answer may depend on the following different mindset for black:
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Why do chess tournaments allow absolutely scandalous draws? [closed]
I am currently watching the Rapid World Championship and the amount of draws between players is absolutely shocking. I'm not talking about games where each player fights to the end and the game just ...
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Why did this game end with a draw?
This game starts with
f4 e5
g4
IMO, black has a winning position here. How did it end with a draw?
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Rules: Is this position a draw?
Is this position a draw?
[FEN ""]
1. Nf3 Nf6 2. Ng1 Ng8 3. Nf3 Nf6 4. Ng1 Ng8
I don't mean to ask the age-old question "Is chess a draw?"; four moves have been played here, returning to the starting ...
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Would a classic full time armageddon tiebreaker be balanced?
I think that classic chess and rapid chess are two quite different kinds of sport. The classic chess title was undecided this year 2018.
Why not use the armageddon rule, that black wins if tied in ...
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What makes game 5 of the World Championship a draw?
I was watching recently the excellent ChessNetwork commentary of the 5th game of the WCC 2018 between Magnus Carlsen and Fabiano Caruana. The end position looked like this and players shook hands ...
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Can you take back a draw offer?
Is it possible to take back the draw offer if the opponent was not immediately replying to it?
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How does black ensure a draw in this R+3P vs. r+2p endgame with all pawns on the same side?
From a recent world-championship game Fabiano Caruana vs Magnus Carlsen (2018), the players agreed to a draw here:
[Title "Black to move"]
[FEN "8/1r3kp1/7p/7P/4R1P1/6K1/5P2/8 b - - 2 54"]
However, ...
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What if threefold repetition occurs in WCC 2018?
It is not allowed to draw till move 30. Are the players forced to find another moves in case of threefold repetition?
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Why is there a draw in professional chess?
I'm not a serious chess player, but I heard that about 80% of professional chess games end as a draw.
In other similar abstract strategy games, such as Shogi and Janggi, when it is impossible to ...
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Why is this a draw? [duplicate]
I just played a game of chess on my Mac and the Mac shows me this as a draw (I'm white). I can't get my head around it. Why is this a draw?
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What's the rationale behind chess engines conditionally allowing threefold repetitions when assigning a draw score?
When a chess engine sees a position p repeated once (i.e. position p occurred twice) it immediately assigns the second occurrence of position p a draw score. This makes sense because position p doesn'...
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What are the downsides of fast tie-breaks after drawn games?
It is well known that a lot of games in the top level round-robin tournaments end in draws, often not very exciting ones. Many consider that detrimental, as it leads to spectators and sponsors losing ...
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Why was this game drawn on lichess?
https://lichess.org/qgvWa0ly
I (black) was losing and ready to resign soon. As far as I can tell, there should be no stalemate or 50 move rule applicable. I had offered a draw earlier, but it was ...
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Is this a stalemate?
The gamepigeon app is declaring I lost (I am black). This simply does not make sense since it is white's turn and they are in check. The game abruptly ends.
Is this erroneous logic? How can I lose ...
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Can a grandmaster always draw?
I was watching the Challengers championship recently and noticed that the commentators talking about Wesley So’s last game got annoyed that he was aiming for a draw and didn’t really have any fight in ...
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How do I escape perpetual check?
In the below position, what is a clear line that shows Black escapes from perpetual check?
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Is this endgame (sort-of Q vs K) a draw?
I think the following endgame is a draw.
[FEN "7k/5BpP/3K2P1/8/8/8/8/4q3 w - - 0 1"]
My reasoning: I'm playing white. I will only move my king, always. Black's king cannot move. If the queen decide ...
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How is this scenario a draw?
Firstly, I'm very very bad at chess. I've known how to play for most of my life, but I've never been good, so I'm trying to get good by playing against easy computers.
I commonly end in draws with ...
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How the engine can detect the 3-fold repetition using FEN input? [duplicate]
When I run the engine (UCI interface), I usually feed the last position from the game using position fen ... command and get the best move back. The FEN encodes the possibility of the castlings, en ...
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How do UCI chess engines handle 50 move or three repetition rule when playing against other engines?
I'm working on an engine that implements the UCI protocol that is intended to play against other engines. Since the UCI protocol has no commands for offering or accepting draws how does this work when ...
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how does a uci engine draw or resign?
I am writing a UCI chess AI/engine. It has the ability to draw and resign. How do I communicate this to the uci chess interface? what string shoud i send back to the GUI?
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Is there a measure of how likely it is that a position will end in a draw? [closed]
I was asked to rephrase this question. Hope at least someone gets what I'm trying to mean here now.
A position can be equal but asymmetrical. If it is very sharp and complicated then at least humans ...
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What happens if a strong chess engine plays with itself many times?
If a strong engine (eg. Stockfish) plays with itself many times (say, 100 times), what will be the outcomes in terms of the following:
What will be the proportion of draws? Will there be wins/losses? ...
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Maximum number of pieces on board in dead position
It is possible in a chess game to have a dead position in which both players have all eight pawns, one bishop, and a king--20 pieces total. If the two players' pawns are interlocked in "zig-zag" ...
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Requesting draw in last two minutes
What is the right way to claim a draw in the last two minutes?
Also, is there a procedure to claim a draw after losing on time (I mean if you have a position where you can go for a win if you had time)...
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What rule changes are proposed to minimize the incentive to draw a game?
Many world champion games are drawn, and people in the general public think that is disappointing. Not to debate that opinion here, but the question seems to be out there. So what would a rule change ...
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Number of moves till draw with a king [closed]
5R2/8/6k1/8/4Q3/p7/P7/8 b - - 0 1
If there is a king (black) and one pawn (black) with one queen (white), one pawn (white) and one rook (white) and the pawn (white) is blocking pawn (black).
Can ...
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Checkmate with King and Knight vs King and Knight
I just have a quick question. I was playing on chess.com and got into the following position:
[FEN "8/4n/6k1/8/K2/3N1/8/8 b - - 0 1"]
Now, I assumed that once we traded off the last pawns, the game ...
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Is today's chess.com daily puzzle a draw (as hinted at in the puzzle title)?
Today's daily puzzle on chess.com is called Desperation Draw:
White to move
[FEN "r5k1/P4ppp/8/8/p1p1P3/4KP2/2P3PP/5R2 w - - 0 1"]
1. Rb1 Rf8 2. Rb8 *
One of the commentators asked:
What draw?
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Can it be said that draws occur less often between top-level players of equal caliber, rather than machine draws? [duplicate]
We would be considering, of course, the over the board rating of the respective machines and/or players. I'm ultimately wanting to see evidence that suggests there is an increase of draws amongst ...
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Draws by game number in championship matches
Some commentators have expressed surprise at the two relatively bland draws to open out the most recent (Carlsen-Karjakin) World Championships. I'm wondering whether there's been any study as to ...
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How is this position a draw?
I played against a bot as a White and had this position. The computer claimed that it's a draw.
[FEN "2Q/k/3QP/8/3K/8/8/1N - - - 0 1"]
I thought it would be a checkmate because wherever the Black ...
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How did this game end in a draw?
https://en.lichess.org/B6L5XNox
Never mind the sloppy play. I'm just curious why this ended in a draw:
(Does anyone know how to copy moves from lichess?)
Anyway, the final 5 moves:
Rc4+ Kb6
Qd8+ ...
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Is computer chess exhibiting the predicted “draw death”?
At various times, even going back 100 years or more, people have been predicting the "draw death" of chess meaning that top players will get so good that every game will be a draw.
In the 1984 World ...
