I'm a complete novice in chess and I don't know if this even qualifies as endgame with so many pieces left, but I ended up in this position playing as black vs. a king's pawn debut. I sort of tried to play king's gambit of my own, despite playing black. As you can see, I won on timer, but is this position winnable to either side, or it a stalemate / draw? Assuming both sides play perfectly, of course - which they did not up to this point, but my question is theoretical.

[Title "White to move: Is it draw?"]
[FEN "2k3r1/1p3p2/2p5/p2r3p/8/P2P3P/1P2RK1P/6R1 w - - 0 1"]
[Startflipped "1"]

The only advantage for black that I can see is the pawns being advanced one more line, my goal would be to sneak one pawn up to the 1 line, but it's hard to see for me whether that's doable.

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    Whose turn? It looks like whoever moves first wins a Rook. It seems like it's White's turn since Black has just played R(x)d5, so 1 Rxg8+ wins. If it were Black's turn then 1 . . . Rf5+ would for 2 Ke3(Ke1) and then Rxg1(+) would win. If Black's move was not a capture then Black could have won with either Rf5+ or Rxe2+. Aug 10, 2022 at 20:13
  • @NoamD.Elkies: white to move. Thanks for the analysis! Indeed, I missed that obvious move, looks like the best black can do is trade two rooks for one, and white will have a hard time losing. Funny how the timer changes everything in clocked games. Aug 10, 2022 at 20:16

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With white to move, as you indicated, it is a trivial win for white. Your rook on g8 is en prise to the white rook on g1. White plays RxR+ and you are just a rook down.

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    The irony is last move black had Rxe2+ Kxe2 Rxg1 winning a rook themselves. Hilarious post OP, thanks for the chuckle. Aug 10, 2022 at 21:25

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