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So, I've been reading Harry Potter and The Philosopher's Stone. If you haven't read the book yet, or watched the movie, and you don't want any spoilers, stop reading this question. Continuing, there is this chess scene, where Harry, Ron, and Hermione had to play their way through a giant board. They were black. Harry became a bishop, Ron a knight, and Hermione a "castle" which I guess refers to the rook. Is there such game where it followed the conditions that the book said?

These conditions are:

  • White starts with 1. e4

  • The white queen takes both black knights

  • The second black knight (Ron) sacrificed himself to the white queen in order for a bishop (Harry) to travel 3 spaces to the left for mate

  • The first black knight was taken for a trade for a black rook (Hermione) to take a white bishop

  • Both the bishop and rook (Harry and Hermione) were in danger twice

  • The second black knight (Ron) took the most white pieces

  • The same black bishop (Harry) went 4 spaces to the right in the opening

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well my 2 comments got upvoted, so who knows, maybe i can turn this into an answer.

jeremy silman talked about the position in these 2 links in the description here. unfortunately, they're both dead. let's see if i can dig up web archive

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1F6KHr4y6HE&ab_channel=multipurpose101

oh yeah here we go

https://www.jeremysilman.com/book-review/creating-the-harry-pottter-chess-position/

(also http://web.archive.org/web/20170801000000*/jeremysilman.com/shop/pc/Creating-the-Harry-Potter-Chess-Position-87p3692.htm and http://web.archive.org/web/20111201000000*/jeremysilman.com/movies_tv_js/harry_potter.html)


aaaand of course there's agadmator:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7RIDfDG8wY


anyway, let's see if the game in the movie satisfies the conditions

  1. White starts with 1. e4

    • Yes. Ron does Scandinavian defense.
  2. The white queen takes both black knights

    • Well, no, just Ron. But the other knights aren't really do anything, so I don't see why there couldn't have been a position where Harry, Ron and Hermione have lost their other knight.
  3. The second black knight (Ron) sacrificed himself to the white queen in order for a bishop (Harry) to travel 3 spaces to the left for mate

    • Yes, assuming you don't count the intermediate move of capturing the queen (the movie didn't seem to count this!)
  4. The first black knight was taken for a trade for a black rook (Hermione) to take a white bishop

    • see (2). Also, Hermione doesn't seem to have moved much. But she does have control of the f-file.
  5. Both the bishop and rook (Harry and Hermione) were in danger twice

    • Immediately before Ron checks king at end, Harry, as the dark square black bishop, is in line of sight of white queen. There's no indication for Hermione in danger, but I don't see why there can't be a game like this.
  6. The second black knight (Ron) took the most white pieces

    • When playing a game, I don't know of anything where people keep track of which piece captured the most pieces. This sounds something like determining which piece is like the 'MVP', like the online pokemon TCG or csgo. I don't think this is a chess thing. But I guess it seems plausible.
  7. The same black bishop (Harry) went 4 spaces to the right in the opening

    • Harry as the dark square black bishop could've done Bb4, like in Nimzo-Indian Defence, but Nimzo-Indian Defence is a response to 1.d4 and not 1.e4. Perhaps there's some variation of Scandinavian that involves Bb4. According to this, there's something called 'Scandinavian, Anderssen counter-attack orthodox attack' that goes
  1. e4 d5 2. exd5 Qxd5 3. Nc3 Qa5 4. d4 e5 5. dxe5 Bb4 6. Bd2 Nc6 7. Nf3
[White "Some 1.e4 player"]
[Black "Some Scandinavian player"]
[Result ""]
[FEN ""] 

1. e4 d5 2. exd5 Qxd5 3. Nc3 Qa5 4. d4 e5 5. dxe5 Bb4 6. Bd2 Nc6 7. Nf3

Also, notice that before capturing the queen, Harry is along the same diagonal of b4 and Harry's starting square (f8).

  • But actually 4 spaces to the right is a pretty common thing I think like Ruy Lopez.
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    Well, you learn something new everyday! I never knew about this opening variation of the scandinavian, so a BIG thanks for this answer! Upvoted, and checkmark tommorow! – Anonymus 25- Reinstate Monica Jan 17 at 2:15
  • You're welcome, but idk it wasn't really a big deal, i think, haha. it's nice to be appreciated @Anonymus25-ReinstateMonica also God bless you for the reinstate monica – BCLC Jan 17 at 22:29
  • @Anonymus25-ReinstateMonica also i've never heard of this variation of scandinavian before, especially since i've almost never played scandinavian. i doubt jk rowling has too. or maybe this is really what she meant without referring to any particular variation – BCLC Jan 17 at 22:30

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