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I have some interesting questions that have to do with the rating changes and calculations for the Anand-Carlsen world championship.

First, some preliminary information:

Carlsen's live rating: 2870, Anand's live rating: 2775

If Carlsen wins a game, he gains 3.7 points; draw -1.3 points, loss -6.3 points.

If Anand wins a game, he gains 6.3 points; draw 1.3 points, loss -3.7 points.

The match will be 12 games, with the winner being the first to 6 points. Therefore, the number of standard rated games in the match can vary based on all the ordered possibilities of wins, draws, and losses.

My questions are:

1. What are the possibilities for Carlsen to cross 2900 in live rating?

2. What are the possibilities for Anand to cross 2800 in live rating?

3. What are the upper and lower bounds for Carlsen's rating in the match, given the stipulations?

4. What are the upper and lower bounds for Anand's rating in the match, given the stipulations?

Thanks!

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    The winner is the first to 6.5 points. Also, note that the answer to question 1 is trivially "none", since the best Carlsen can do is go 7-0, giving him a post-match rating of 2895.9. – dfan Sep 26 '13 at 16:36
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First, note that the final ratings depend entirely on the score of the match, not on the particular games. For example, if they each win a game, their ratings will change by the same amount as if they draw both games. This may seem like a coincidence but it's just a consequence of the way that FIDE ratings work.

Here is the entire table of possible results. The columns are Anand's match score, Carlsen's match score, Anand's post-match rating, and Carlsen's post-match rating. The results are sorted by post-match rating.

  A   C  A_rat  C_rat
0.0 7.0 2749.1 2895.9
0.5 6.5 2754.1 2890.9
1.0 7.0 2755.4 2889.6
1.5 6.5 2760.4 2884.6
2.0 7.0 2761.7 2883.3
2.5 6.5 2766.7 2878.3
3.0 7.0 2768.0 2877.0
3.5 6.5 2773.0 2872.0
4.0 7.0 2774.3 2870.7
4.5 6.5 2779.3 2865.7
5.0 7.0 2780.6 2864.4
5.5 6.5 2785.6 2859.4
6.0 6.0 2790.6 2854.4
6.5 5.5 2795.6 2849.4
6.5 4.5 2799.3 2845.7
7.0 5.0 2800.6 2844.4
6.5 3.5 2803.0 2842.0
7.0 4.0 2804.3 2840.7
6.5 2.5 2806.7 2838.3
7.0 3.0 2808.0 2837.0
6.5 1.5 2810.4 2834.6
7.0 2.0 2811.7 2833.3
6.5 0.5 2814.1 2830.9
7.0 1.0 2815.4 2829.6
7.0 0.0 2819.1 2825.9

Therefor the answers to your questions are

  1. None.
  2. He needs to win the match with 7 points, or with 6.5 points with Carlsen scoring at most 3.5.
  3. 2895.9, 2825.9.
  4. 2819.1, 2749.1.
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The answer for 1 is NEVER, because even if Carlsen has the theoretically best possible tournament with 7-0, his rating would go to 2895.9 only.

The answer for 2 is if:

Anand wins the match 7-0, making his rating 2819.1

OR

Anand wins the match 6.5-5.5 (order of game results does not matter) by:

6 wins, 1 draw in a 7-game match: new rating = 2814.1
5 wins, 3 draws in a 8-game match: new rating = 2810.4
4 wins, 5 draws in a 9-game match: new rating = 2806.7
3 wins, 7 draws in a 10-game match. new rating = 2803.0

The answers for 3 and 4 are:

Carlsen's maximum rating, 2895.9, is attained if he wins 7-0, and thus Anand's minimum rating, 2749.1. Anand's maximum rating, 2819.1, is attained if he wins 7-0, and thus Carlsen's minimum rating 2825.9.

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    Any result in which Anand gets 7 points will result in his rating exceeding 2800. There are many ways for this to happen besides going 7-0. – dfan Sep 26 '13 at 17:41
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    What are the many ways for this to happen? I see only 7-0, because THE MATCH ENDS WHEN THE FIRST PLAYER crosses 6 POINTS. – user1747 Sep 26 '13 at 17:42
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    Here is one way: Carlsen wins one game, and then Anand wins the next seven. – dfan Sep 26 '13 at 17:45
  • Oh ok, I see. And then it could go up to if Carlsen wins five games, and Anand wins seven games. – user1747 Sep 26 '13 at 17:48

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