# Can one win with two dark square bishops and two light square bishops and his opponent has only one queen?

Can one win with two dark square bishops and two light square bishops and his opponent has only one queen?

I remember seeing this endgame being analyzed in a video around 10 years ago (and I think the answer is yes) but could not find the video any more.

• Can white win? It is possible. Will white win. Depends on the initial position. And how white/black moves later on. Anything can happen if their ratings are low enough. Dec 27, 2019 at 15:14

What you're referring to is a so-called "7-man" ending (2 kings, 1 queen and 4 bishops). Luckily for you, we have 7-man tablebases which are even available online and which allow us to analyze every possible legal 7-man chess ending.

``````[FEN "1q1k4/8/8/8/B7/1B6/1B6/2B1K3 w - - 0 1"]
``````

Randomly setting up the above position shows that white is indeed winning, and generally most positions seem to show white winning. However, this isn't always the case, for example the following is a draw (white to move) because of the fact that black can either fork the king and one of the bishops, or can fork two bishops:

``````[FEN "3k3K/B3q3/8/8/8/8/B7/2B4B w - - 0 1"]
``````

The tablebase also shows how the win often doesn't require that many ply, depending on the starting position of course.

• In the second (draw) example can white avoid losing one of his bishops? If not, it is just three bishops vs queen and does not really belong here, IMO. Jan 9, 2019 at 16:14
• No, but I included it for of completedness's sake. I just edited my post though to make it clear that it's a draw because of black being able to trivially land a fork. Jan 9, 2019 at 16:19
• It is still an open question imho, if white can ALWAYS win when all bishops are guarded somehow in the starting position; and black can't sacrifice its queen for two bishops of the same color within a few moves (in a trivial way). Or sacrifice the queen in a trivial way that immediately leads to stale mate. Mar 27, 2022 at 16:35