The last public ranking of chess centaurs was in 2014, and only compares centaurs to each other. As of 2018, what would be the ELO rating of the best centaurs compared to the best humans and chess engines?

This is similar to this question, but two differences:

  • It is specifically about if centaurs beat computers, which is a subset of this question
  • The top answer is about a GM with a computer who does not have any training as a centaur, while we know that good centaurs have very different skills than good humans do.

Chess centaurs is not correspondence chess because centaur matches are played under the classical time controls. Unfortunately, centaurs is dead because the best strategy is just follow the engine moves.

In classical time controls, there's generally no advantage for human assistance. Humans are too slow, too clumsy etc ... we need more time.

This is 2018, centaurs matches are absolutely meaningless. They are like computer matches with dumb human intervention. Computer engines play stronger than human+computer unless the human player has sufficient time to digest the positions.

The answer to your question is the same ELO as the engine itself.

  • Do you have some evidence for what you wrote? I'm under the impression that a GM + computer should still hold a meaningful edge over just the computer. – Allure Mar 26 '18 at 22:29
  • @Allure your are wrong. Google about Garry Kasparov. – SmallChess Mar 26 '18 at 23:10
  • "Garry Kasparov" returns a huge list of results, not all of which is related to centaur chess. "Garry Kasparov centaur" doesn't find anything conclusive. Do you have more specific search terms? – Allure Mar 26 '18 at 23:14
  • @Allure Kasparov mentioned when he talked about advance chess. Sorry I don’t have time to google it further. – SmallChess Mar 26 '18 at 23:15
  • I can't find any where Kasparov says humans are no help. Instead he says the opposite. For example there is medium.com/conversations-with-tyler/…, where he says "There’s no doubt about it" in response to the question "Today, 2017, do you still think it’s the case that a human paired with a set of programs is better than playing against just the single strongest computer program in chess?" – Allure Mar 26 '18 at 23:17

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