I was wondering if the actual champion is ever going to play against a chess engine like Kasparov and Krammik did? Or is this kind of event not going to happen anymore due to the strength of the engines being just too high?


I don't think it'll ever happen because:

  • Who's going to pay? Deep Blue was covered by IBM, Deep Fritz was covered by Chessbase, but Stockfish is a free open-source engine.
  • It's not fun for Carlsen to play an odd match with Stockfish, but he will likely be beaten convincingly if the match is fair.
  • Human vs computer in chess is not interesting anymore. The focus has shifted to Go and Poker.

It's not going to happen.

  • Points 2 and 3 are valid, but point 1 isn't. "Who's going to pay?" - anyone who pays for any sort of event in the world: as well as you sponsor the Sinquefeld Cup, the Grand Prix or any other event, someone can sponsor a price money and claim the dividens out of it. – gented Aug 1 '17 at 13:08
  • @GennaroTedesco if point 3 is valid nobody would spend the money and thus point 1 is correct as well – SmallChess Aug 1 '17 at 13:09
  • Incorrect: investors don't pay for events because they are "interesting": they pay for events so that they can sell their rights. Even if it isn't interesting anymore, Stockfish vs Carlsen would sell all around the world. – gented Aug 1 '17 at 13:11
  • @GennaroTedesco if you are correct there would have been a match already..... I stand my point 1 – SmallChess Aug 1 '17 at 13:15
  • "if you are correct there would have been a match already." false, exactly because the reason there has been no match isn't because of 1, rather it is because of 2. – gented Aug 1 '17 at 13:24

This will not happen in a traditional form; engines are just too strong for that. In 2014, Nakamura, one of the world's top players, played a match 'with odds' against Stockfish. In two of those games, Stockfish was a pawn down; in the other two games, Nakamura had the help of an older version of the engine running on a slower computer. Stockfish won both minimatches with 1.5 - 0.5.


Although it would be very exciting, I don't believe it would ever happen. Here is a quote out of the mouth of Magnus:

Would you participate in a public game against a computer in the near future - or is that not an option for you? The last one I remember was Vladimir Kramnik against Deep Fritz in 2006.

I personally never wanted that. I find it much more interesting to play humans. And also, of course, now that they have become so strong in a game like that, I wouldn't stand a chance.


From watching Magnus Carlsen many years shows that his style of play is not suited to playing against a computer. His desire to win causes him to willfully play weaker or obscure moves to confuse/challenge his opponents; this will surely mean he will be a lamb to the slaughter against a modern day computer chess software.


I am sure Magnus would not like to compete in an event like that because it is not a new kind of Event anymore which would arouse any innovative interest for the Chess World . As for Strength true the Engines have a relatively higher rated but I confide in Magnus more because I have seen some of his amazing games which are full of Innovative ideas which even Kasparov & Fischer would have not been able to do .

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