I have played a game this morning where I reached the following position:

[fen "r1bq1rk1/1p1nppbp/p2p1np1/2pP4/2P1P3/2N1BN2/PP2BPPP/R2Q1RK1 w - - 0 1"]

I was playing with White. In this position my opponent played e5 which is a very bad move because I can take the pawn en passant and then take the d6 pawn which is unprotected.

I went on to win the game and afterwards I was talking to him and he told me that he thinks that it is an usual move and that taking on d6 is not supposed to be good.

I checked the position with my computer and it gives White an advantage of +2 after taking the d6 pawn. I assume that he forgot his analysis and mixed different lines.

I don't usually play the King's Indian so I'm wondering, are there any lines where Black can play e5 in a position similar to this one and then is bad to take on d6?

I'm just interested in positions which arose from the King's Indian where Black has already played c5.

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...e5 is indeed a typical move in King's Indian, but it's usually done when:

  • The white pawn is on d4
  • The white pawn is on d5 but there is something defending the d6 pawn, usually the Black queen.

I think your opponent simply confused the position and blundered.


In KID positions like this with pawns on c5 and d6, knight on d7 I have never seen e5 without either Re8 or Qe8 first. e5 in this position is just a blunder,

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