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Is there any way to take knight and save rook at same time?

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 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 f6 3. Nxe5 fxe5 4. Qh5+
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As Akavall said correctly, it is the Damiano Defense, and is named after Pedro Damiano (1480–1544).

Since he answered the basic question about the name, I would not normally, but there is an additional part to the question, so I am going to add that 2...f6? is virtually a forced loss, no matter how you play it, and here is the analysis. So, no you cannot take the knight, and save the rook, or worse happens.

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 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 f6 3. Nxe5 fxe5 $2 (3... Qe7 4. Nf3 Qxe4+ 5. Be2 d5 6. O-O {And black is already dead on the e-file. The immediate threat is Bb5+ and Re1 winning the queen. The ugly Ne7 is the best move here.} Ne7) 4. Qh5+ Ke7 (4... g6 5. Qxe5+ Qe7 6. Qxh8 Qxe4+ 7. Kd1 $18) 5. Qxe5+ Kf7 6. Bc4+ d5 (6... Kg6 7. Qf5+ Kh6 8. h4 $1 Qe7 9. d3+ g5 10. hxg5+ Kg7 11. Bd2 d5 12. Bc3+ Nf6 13. gxf6+ {And mates in four.}) 7. Bxd5+ Kg6 8. h4 h6 (8... h5 9. Bxb7 Bd6 10. Qa5 Nc6 11. Bxc6 Rb8) 9. Bxb7 Bd6 (9... Bxb7 10. Qf5#) 10. Qb5 Nf6 11. Bxa8 $18
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    And let's mention that it was named after Damiano because he mentioned it in his book, and called it an awful line for black! Not because he advocated it or played it.
    – RemcoGerlich
    Jan 27, 2020 at 15:22
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    What is the +- notation?
    – corsiKa
    Jan 27, 2020 at 22:58
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    @corsiKa, that means decisive advantage: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chess_annotation_symbols
    – PhishMaster
    Jan 27, 2020 at 23:09
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    Thank you all for answering. It was nice.
    – Anubhav Goel
    Jan 28, 2020 at 2:14
  • The 3...Qe7 line is definitely far from a forced loss
    – David
    Aug 15, 2020 at 10:59
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The opening you are after is Damiano Defense: 1.e5 e4 2.Nf3 f6.

Note that after 3. Nxf3 fe? is a mistake, 3...Qe7 keeps the material equal. There is no way to take the knight and save the rook as far as I know.

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The knight is not sacrificed. If black takes it then he will regret it. The best is to lose the rook and have a bad position.

To answer the other half of your question: Ke7 saves the rook but leads to a terrible position.

After QxP+, black has to play Kf7, then white moves Bc4+. It's all downhill from there until Black is mated.

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    Isn't that the whole point of a sacrifice? Losing a piece in order to gain an advantage your opponent didn't see by taking the piece?
    – corsiKa
    Jan 28, 2020 at 2:28
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    not a sacrifice when it wins the exchange or mates no matter what the opponent does.
    – edwina oliver
    Jan 28, 2020 at 2:31
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    It's not a direct sacrifice perhaps, but since Chess is all about working a couple of steps ahead I don't see a reason why it wouldn't count as a sacrifice. Honestly I don't know where it's defined.
    – Mast
    Jan 28, 2020 at 7:27

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